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Post by eddiea on 2012-12-31, 14:28

Some thoughts...
Personally, about 3 years ago or so, I realized that my collecting habits exceeded my ability to properly care for my collection.
At one point in time, I had 3 Rolex's, couple Omegas, a Longines and couple Oris, all at the same time...
I am purposely omitting anything I had (or still have) under $1,500 here, but amounted to around 35 or 40 total, counting the "mid/low-end" (in my personal scale) Tissot's, Hamilton's, Seiko's , Orient's etc and of course, the quartz brethren...
Just to keep up with the recommended service schedule for the 7 or 8 in my personal "higher end" scale, became a very expensive proposition.
I'm one of those who believe that if you can't afford servicing a good watch as per the manufacturer/s recommendation? then you just simply couldn't afforded in the first place, so decided to cut down and sold/traded most of them.
Then took a look at the newer Citizen Eco-Drive's and like the idea of perfect time, with very little or no maintenance and have a single "high-end" mechanical to lead the way, couple mid-end/Micro's and that's the way, my collection currently goes.
Of course everyone's mileage widely vary etc etc but, I was wondering how many of you actually keep up with regular manufacturer/s recommendation service in watches exceeding $1,500? and how many actually take the maintenance cost into consideration, at the time of purchase?

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by aztecknight on 2012-12-31, 15:26

I take maintenance into consideration, but I don't follow "recommended" service intervals. I don't think one needs to. I only get a watch serviced once its stopped working properly. For a good watch like omega, ML, and Rolex, it is probably 10 years or more.

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Post by aztecknight on 2012-12-31, 15:28

I'll add that for high end brands I prefer OEM service. Complete service covers any wear and tear, so doing every 5 years or more, buys you nothing.

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by eddiea on 2012-12-31, 15:39

We are going to agree to desagree , just the gaskets , probably the weakes point in a watch have a life spam of 4/5 years ...we are talking about top of the line gaskets here (thats why Rolex recomendation as an example)
In a diver a widely popular type of watch , WR is everything and a feature you actually paying good money for (regardless if you actually dive or not).
But even in a non diver, humidity will find a way inside a watch with older gaskets..
Oils will get contaminated etc....

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by Mortuus on 2012-12-31, 16:58

Am embarrassed to tell you that it never occurred to me - at the time of purchase - to consider maintenance costs. I only have a couple of watches in that price range, but am now going to have to really think about the maintenance issue, as my most expensive watches just happen to be divers, and gaskets really do perform in that manner.

I always have preventative maintainance done on my automobiles; why should my high-end watches be any different...?

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by aztecknight on 2012-12-31, 17:35

Do you change your oil every 3000 miles?

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Post by Mortuus on 2012-12-31, 17:51

Every 10,000 to 10,500; my cars both use MobilOne synthetic oil, which is a bit more expensive, but costs less in the long run.

How often does something like maintenance on a Rolex typically get scheduled?

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by eddiea on 2012-12-31, 18:20

Mortuus wrote:Every 10,000 to 10,500; my cars both use MobilOne synthetic oil, which is a bit more expensive, but costs less in the long run.

How often does something like maintenance on a Rolex typically get scheduled?
Rolex recommend every 5 years, I'm not fanatic about it, but do think is needed

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by eddiea on 2012-12-31, 18:34

aztecknight wrote:Do you change your oil every 3000 miles?
A good example... both my wife and I cars are under warranty , fail to perform scheduled maintenance of any kind? or do it in a non authorized dealer (my wife's Jaguar) and the warranty is void...

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by aztecknight on 2012-12-31, 18:38

eddiea wrote:
aztecknight wrote:Do you change your oil every 3000 miles?
A good example... both my wife and I cars are under warranty , fail to perform scheduled maintenance of any kind? or do it in a non authorized dealer (my wife's Jaguar) and the warranty is void...

My point exactly, its a moneymaker. I choose to roll the proverbial dice. I say proverbial because odds are in my favor.

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by eddiea on 2012-12-31, 18:54

aztecknight wrote:
eddiea wrote:
aztecknight wrote:Do you change your oil every 3000 miles?
A good example... both my wife and I cars are under warranty , fail to perform scheduled maintenance of any kind? or do it in a non authorized dealer (my wife's Jaguar) and the warranty is void...

My point exactly, its a moneymaker. I choose to roll the proverbial dice. I say proverbial because odds are in my favor.
I heard you and agree is a moneymaker.... me? got hit couple times (one with Rolex) and learn that, when we talk about mechanical items, odds are unpredictable.


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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by fatman on 2012-12-31, 18:59

A educating discussion it is. As I don't consider myself a WIS and might not ever be to the level some/ most of you guys are you are still teaching to someone who want to learn.

The two most expensive watches I have ever purchased were the Oris pro diver chrono ( $2500 ish )and the Oris hawker hunter ( $1100 ish) I never gave long term maintenance a second thought. Of course I didn't own either long enough to have to worry about it but I think I would have done what Juan does and rolled the dice. I consistently kept track of their +\- and would have done what was needed to keep them both in spec as both stayed spot on while in my ownership.

I will defiantly keep this thread in mind the next time I venture out for a $1000+ watch.

I sure do miss that Hawker Hunter!

Thank guys for the insight.
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Post by Mortuus on 2012-12-31, 22:40

Is this something that ETA might recommend for their movements (say, an ETA 3832 or a Valjoux 7750) or is this practice limited to the very high-end automatics/mechanicals?

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by eddiea on 2012-12-31, 23:34

Mortuus wrote:Is this something that ETA might recommend for their movements (say, an ETA 3832 or a Valjoux 7750) or is this practice limited to the very high-end automatics/mechanicals?
Of course...every mechanical/auto watch movement have a scheduled maintenance time frame, some like those fitted with a piggybacking Dubois Depraz module, like the ETA 2894's in it are serviceable only at the factory and it is recommended every 3 years making it more expensive to own that the simpler V 7750.

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by Mortuus on 2013-01-01, 01:36

I remember old Jumbloat telling a caller on Shop that the only maintenance an auto or mechanical watch ever needed was to be wound every month or so...using that same logic, I guess all our cars ever need by way of maintenance would be to turn them over once a month. Shocked

Many thanks for the excellent info, Eddie; like Fatman, I'm gonna have to think about the whole maintenance issue before jumping in on my next ETA or VJ...

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by Ocean on 2013-01-01, 08:32

You always have to take it in to consideration when buying a higher end watch. When I looked at the 1945 service was a major factor in my not keeping it, the service was the deal breaker. It also has to be taken in consideration when buying a vintage watch, the truth is when buying one if not serviced yes you can get a great deal but know it needs service, gaskets, oils, cleaning and other services. NOS has to be serviced in this manner also.

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by AJC on 2013-01-01, 14:48

Ocean wrote:You always have to take it in to consideration when buying a higher end watch. When I looked at the 1945 service was a major factor in my not keeping it, the service was the deal breaker. It also has to be taken in consideration when buying a vintage watch, the truth is when buying one if not serviced yes you can get a great deal but know it needs service, gaskets, oils, cleaning and other services. NOS has to be serviced in this manner also.

You got rid of the GP?!

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Re: Inspired by the "2012 Smellody’s year in review" Watch Lords thread.

Post by DBCooper on 2013-01-01, 17:13

eddiea wrote:I was wondering how many of you actually keep up with regular manufacturer/s recommendation service in watches exceeding $1,500?
I haven't spent that much on one.

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