Rotary "Classics Collection" Quartz Chronograph

If it were me, I would prefer a black strap. More contrast i think..........

I like it Mortuus. I have a 3 hand auto in silvertone that looks similar. The funny thing is I just replaced (yesterday) the black gator grain OEM with a genuine gator closer to the color of yours. LBS of WOW barks that the dial is authentic guilloche but at the price I paid, I doubt it. Having said that the guilloche looks damn good even under magnification. I consider my Rotary the best bang for the buck I have paid for a new watch.

Enjoy it Mort!

Nice watch. I have a pet peeve about faux reptile straps, so I would change that out. Of course, that would sacrifice the curved fitted strap.

I like that a lot, Mortuus. Rotary are very popular over here. What is their 'Swiss Made' status these days?

Anyway. I think a quick trip to the Jewellers for a buff-up would be in order: I quite like the strap and as it would appear to be a proprietary fit, you may well be stuck with it. Furnace blue hands would be very good.

Not sure of the etiquette around here so forgive me, etc, but can I ask what it was going out for on eBay?

itfc1959 wrote:What is their 'Swiss Made' status these days?

Along the same lines of what ChronoMATT posted over on WL, someone else was writing about that very subject on another site just a couple of days ago. The jist of the post was that Rotary has gone to a new business model wherein they're "re-creating" many of their most successful styles from the past, only with lesser materials, movements, etc. Apparently, the easiest way to tell these from the originals is the absence of the words, 'Swiss Made.' They're further "dumbing down" the brand with the advent of the new 'Rotary Editions' line, an even more questionable series of "affordable" (read: uber cheap) watches.

I find this to be very troubling, even disheartening, as it comes down to yet another watch company with an excellent reputation deliberately leaving it all behind to pursue a larger market share with cheaper products. (Much like Deep Blue, and even Movado, with their 'ESQ' watches.)

Sadly, this all seems to be true.

itfc1959 wrote:Not sure of the etiquette around here so forgive me, etc, but can I ask what it was going out for on eBay?

No apologies necessary; mine came in at $233.42, shipping from lovely old Blighty included, which is one of the best prices I'd seen for the genuine vintage item in quite some time. Pretty much in line with what ChronoMATT noted, as well.

Many thanks for the feedback...

That's a good looking watch. I've wondered about rotary. Seems ok but after certain dubious characters sold them I was skeptical. Thanks for the insight.

DBCooper wrote:I like it Mortuus. I have a 3 hand auto in silvertone that looks similar. The funny thing is I just replaced (yesterday) the black gator grain OEM with a genuine gator closer to the color of yours. LBS of WOW barks that the dial is authentic guilloche but at the price I paid, I doubt it. Having said that the guilloche looks damn good even under magnification. I consider my Rotary the best bang for the buck I have paid for a new watch.

Enjoy it Mort!

Many thanks, DB. As I mentioned to itfc in the above response, my big fear is that Rotary is slipping into mediocrity; I have a similar concern about Jacques Lemans, which has long been a favorite of mine, as well. And now we have the advent of Movado's new 'ESQ' sub-brand, and I'm really beginning to wonder who's going to be next to take the plunge into this depressing new trend.

Guess I'll have to permanently add the word 'vintage' to my internet search parameters for Rotary, Jacques Lemans and Movado...

Mortuus wrote:

Teddybear wrote:That's a good looking watch. I've wondered about rotary. Seems ok but after certain dubious characters sold them I was skeptical. Thanks for the insight.

I just hope that I'm wrong about the 'new' Rotary...many thanks for the feedback, T-Bear.

I wandered into Norwich yesterday and called into some stores: one major chain, two family-run boutique stores. The Big Chain and one of the boutiques had impressive window displays.

The majority of the Rotary watches on display are Japanese / Chinese: priced around £180 - £250. Some are the repros of the old classics, some the new super slimline models which young people are buying up hand over fist. Interestingly, the very friendly and helpful manager from Big Chain said that in his store, Rotary's key demographic are males, 40s and 50s.

Both of the stores seemed unsure about the mechanisms in the pieces they were selling, although Japan and China appeared to feature in the equation. Both also seemed unclear about constituted "Swiss Made", although they seemed certain that this was tightly regulated by the Swiss and anyone trying to pull a fast one would be jumped on pretty damn quick. Another area of confusion for them was the practice of sending part-finished Swiss-parts to China for completion. Or was it the other way round?

Or maybe they saw me coming a mile off.

And as for the third store: the other boutique. This is a seriously high-end store, where they like their Patek Philippe very much. To gain entry you have to get past the seriously big concierge, who not very unobtrusively will check out what you are already wearing on your wrist before letting you in. After the briefest of hesitations, he decided to address me as 'Sir'. Having explained my purpose, he helpfully told me that they stopped selling Rotary once they started producing the Chinese rubbish. And that was that.

Hope this is interesting. Photos to follow.

Not just interesting, i.t., but fascinating, as well. Unfortunately, it sounds like a worst-fears-realized scenario, though I guess it shouldn't come as any real surprise to any of us. It sounds like the 40-50 crowd are buying them because they remember how expensive they were, and the young crowd - who, I believe, don't care much about the status of higher-end movements - just like the style and the price.

I guess it speaks to more than a little bit of snobbishness on my part, but I'm very comfortable with Japanese movements; not so, their Chinese counterparts. I don't mind - and would even buy - a top-end Seagull watch with its namesake movement, but the idea of a classic name like Rotary featuring that same movement just plain puts me off. An SW 200 or even a Miyota 8205, while not up there with the ETA 2824, would have been much more palatable, IMHO.

A couple or three years back, Rotary did a brief stint on ShopNBC, even going so far as providing an 'Our Top Value' in the form of a three-hand automatic which, I believe, featured the aforementioned ETA 2824 movement. It was somewhere in the $550-$600 ballpark, and this was considered unheard-of back then. How ironic that, just a few years later, they've been pushed - or, more accurately, jumped - off that lofty pedestal they once occupied. [**SIGH**]

And I didn't mean to write a novella; sorry about that, i.t. Many, many thanks for the extra legwork and excellent info that resulted from it; well done, sir. Would love to see whatever pix you can share when you get a chance.